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  1. Sarah

    Doesn't surprise me in the least. Sounds like something one of the Big 4 would do. That's why AA no longer exists. Their dishonesty was caught and they were fired. If Mary has a CPA, the dishonesty should have been reported as she is supposed to competent AND ethical. Mary sounds like the kind of person who would thrive in the Big 4 environment (i.e. eats time to make herself look better).

  2. Sarah

    I meant Veronica where I said Mary.

  3. Curmudgeon

    >>Sad to say, ability will beat out honesty almost every time.

    I have to disagree here, Steve, at least from the context of your story. Neither was honest, as you point out. Rather, while both had flaws, ability beat out the lack of suitability for a particular role. As you said, both are happy in the roles they now have, so there was no real contest here, with winners and losers. That may be the biggest mistake we make in life, to think that we either win or lose.

    I have been fired, perhaps deservedly so, for the same sin of lack of suitabilty. That told me it was time to find something more suitable, and is not a badge of dishonor.

    Nevertheless, you have a great story here, and the lessons are many and important in a career.

  4. @curmudgeon: I guess my point was that lying itself is a forgivable offense. Lying is forgotten if you have enough ability – hence the rise of so many business and political leaders who have so many skeletons in their closets yet continue to remain leaders in our country.

  5. Curmudgeon

    Hmmm, thanks for the explanation, Steve. That's an interesting theory. I would say that lying damages you, but there are other factors that can offset it. Our President Clinton was undeniably a smart and capable person, but his frequent lies (and getting caught in them) have certainly damaged his reputation and legacy. If the lies outweigh the positive attributes (SC's governor Sanford, perhaps?), you start down that slippery slope toward irrelevance.

  6. Curmudgeon

    Hmmm, thanks for the explanation, Steve. That's an interesting theory. I would say that lying damages you, but there are other factors that can offset it. Our President Clinton was undeniably a smart and capable person, but his frequent lies (and getting caught in them) have certainly damaged his reputation and legacy. If the lies outweigh the positive attributes (SC's governor Sanford, perhaps?), you start down that slippery slope toward irrelevance.