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  1. Does this mean that I won’t suddenly start exercising if I don’t make myself do it?

    When you don’t like what you do (or some aspect of it) I find it easy to concentrate on that, its much more productive to focus on what I want to do instead. Is there anything about your job that you do like? Or anything else that you are really passionate about? Once you’ve got a destination clearly in mind, its easier to work out how to get there – especially if you have bills to pay.

  2. I hate to be the voice of de-inspiration but I’m going for number four (suck it up). I’m planning on a retirement at 55 however, not 60.

    Whether I want to do something different or not, the fact is that I’ve set myself up to be extremely dependant on a good steady wage. I have a nice house (and big mortgage), and wife who is not working and a child. When I was single and renting an apartment I had a lot more flexibility in terms of work or even areas to live in but those days are over.

    Mike

  3. Part of achieving financial freedom is paying for things like basic shelter. I think you should worry more about paying for your home than achieving financial freedom. I’m trying to work briskly (not crazy) on the side in hopes of being able to quit my job and focus on things that have less of a “earnings ceiling.”

    As I look at your list, I wonder if moving to an area of lower cost living could give you most or all of the things that you are looking for on your second list, with the exception of working for yourself. From what I gather you might be able to consult part time and giving you more time to do the things you want to do.

  4. Man, but those two lists of five look familiar.

    From your description of your financial state (debt free, savings, educated, marketable) and your financial interests (real estate, investing), it seems that your choices are many and and that maybe you’re tied to this path for only one reason–geography.

    With respect to FourPillars and acknowledging that our choices are bound by real constraints, I still can’t accept that our (or maybe just my) choices are only so much sacrifice now to reach a final destination of retirement. Rather at some point, if the endgame as we’ve defined it only allows it to be achieved by waiting until 60, maybe we’ve got the wrong endgame.

    Holy cow. I guess you struck a chord with me.

  5. Mike-TWA – I would argue that in my case since I have a big mortgage and a wife who isn’t working, we’re not really sacrificing now – those are choices that cost a lot of money that we didn’t have to make.

    Mike

  6. Interesting comments, all.
    @plonkee: You’re absolutely right that it would be easier to be productive at my job if I enjoyed it more. I had one reason and one reason only for going into the world of accounting/auditing/etc. – to travel. For about 8 years I was able to travel heavily all over the world, and despite not really being interested in the actual day-to-day job that made it worth it. Now that I’m not traveling since I’d rather be home with my family I find that the day-to-day job is not appealing at all once you remove the travel. So short answer – yeah, I need to find something different, because I don’t think there is anything I could find about my current job to ‘reenergize’ me. I’d rather be teaching…

    @Mike (Four Pillars): I agree I’m not exactly “sacrificing” now, it’s all been conscious decisions, but Mike-TWA’s point is fair: it is a sacrifice of MY time to provide the home, stay-at-home mother, etc. The question is whether making that sacrifice is worth having a big house near the big city…

    And @lazyman and @Mike-TWA: Funny you should mention moving. My wife and I actually visited a small town in Pennsylvania last weekend with the idea of relocating. We want to stay within reach of New York for family reasons, but we really want to find an inexpensive place to live that’s cleaner and safer and has better schools than our current urban home. The little town (which is between NY and Philly but closer to Philly) was perfect, and we may end up doing just what you suggest – relocating to a less expensive area. We saw homes the same size as our current home going for half as much. We have a lot of equity in our very-expensive-but-normal-for-the-area townhouse now, so it’s raised the interesting possibility of being able to pay cash for a house and really have the option of being debt-free and very-low-expense if we move there, meaning we might be able to get by on much less. Won’t happen for another year or two but that may be our plan.

    Great minds run in the same direction! :)

  7. @FourPillars-Mike

    My comments are certainly not intended to be a judgment on choices, more of a thinking out loud (or, um, “out typed”?) about some of the struggles that I go through in looking at what I “have” to do now to get to what I “want” later. For instance, you mention your wife is a stay at home parent–a choice that I great respect and imagine based on your values is pretty close to “have to”. But then there are choices like the big mortgage or living in an expensive area that I wonder about. I have many of my own similar choices. And, I guess my point is that sometimes I wonder about being in a race that we don’t particularly want to be in for many years for sole purpose of finishing. And maybe sometimes, we could just decide to move the finish line a little closer and take the silver rather than the gold.

    Well, the discussion helps me think about it anyway, so thanks all.

  8. Bubelah

    I so agree with Mike-TWA!!!!! We do have the WRONG endgame – retirement. Everywhere you read, all financial news or advices, it’s all about how to save for a decent retirement. It really gets to me big time. What about NOW? What about while I am 30, 50, 70 and just enjoying what I do and not worrying how much I need to save for my big retirment? Seems like all our lives need to revolve around concentrating on the future retirement, from the time we start working or even earlier (yeah, start teaching your children how to save for retirement). The reason all the financial sites hammer us with this idea is because our American Government cannot sustain to support seniors and pay them decent pensions (we’d rather pay for the war nobody cares about)………
    Sorry, I am so angry now.
    Mike-TWA, you are RIGHT, definitely wrong endgame. It’s not the destination but the journey we need to worry about.