Comments on: rich mom, poor mom

By: tom

tom — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:29:59 +0000

Robert Kiyosaki is great, that is one great lesson I got from him.

When I was growing up and still do, I see my parents busting 40-60 hours a week just to get by basically.

I could never see myself doing the same thing to parents, I mean I do not want to put my kids in daycare and have someone else raise them, that is bullshit.

People will probably make excuses when you confront them about why they are neglecting their kids, the most important thing in their life.

By: tom

tom — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:29:59 +0000

By: Moneymonk

Moneymonk — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:12:25 +0000

I have to agree with Mary Witzl , my daughter also PREFERRED to be around her own peers. I work, but I also have plenty of days off and I would always spend those days with however I noticed that I am not her equal and she preferred to be around other kids doing kid stuff.

Some children just want to be around their peers and I don't blame them. That was her little paradise

By: bripblap

bripblap — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:28:50 +0000

@Hawkeye Raider: I think “scam artist” is a fairly strong term. But I'll always fall back on my standard defense of Kiyosaki: read his books as inspiration, not as “how to” guides. It's not a technical book, it's a book designed to get you thinking about the choices that make you poor or rich. Since Kiyosaki's always refused to name the “Rich Dad” I think it's fairly clear after 10 seconds of Googling that he made him up – and I don't have a problem with that. But I understand that many people feel Kiyosaki is trying to sucker gullible people – in which case he's just in the same boat as many others (the US government, among others).

By: Hawkeye Raider

Hawkeye Raider — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:06:03 +0000

Please keep in mind that Robert Kiyosaki is a scam artist. Its great that he has been a successful writer but “Rich Dad” never existed. He made it up to sell books and offer very dangerous financial advise to readers….

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By: Mary Witzl

Mary Witzl — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:40:20 +0000

I always planned to be a stay-at-home mother. Then I had children and circumstances were such that my going back to work made the most sense. My husband, left alone with our baby, quickly found himself overwhelmed, and when the chance for him to go back to work came up, we decided to put our daughter into a nursery school for working parents. Initially, I was miserable about doing this. Then I noticed that our ten-month-old daughter actually preferred this, being a very gregarious baby who enjoyed the noisiness and stimulation of her nursery school. And then I began to enjoy my own job and my husband enjoyed his, and our lifestyle soon became the only one we could imagine. When our second child was born, we put her into the same nursery too, and she thrived on it.

It wasn’t always easy, but we were glad we put our children in childcare. They almost always had good teachers, I got to hear all about the events of their day and see all their artwork, and they both made friends. We lived abroad so they acquired another language at childcare, which was also a great boon. Perhaps the best thing about their being in childcare, though, was the fact that during the weekends, we spent the entire time together.

Everyone’s situation is different. If our kids hadn’t been happy in childcare, that would have changed everything. But it did work for us and there was no question of our children suffering or feeling deprived. Quite the contrary.

By: bripblap

bripblap — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:31:39 +0000

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By: JHS

JHS — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:56:00 +0000

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By: Bubelah

Bubelah — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:25:32 +0000

To add more to my previous comment, when I said we turned out to be fine I meant it. However I didn’t elaborate. When I was about 11 or 12 y.o. my mom got laid off and couldn’t find work, she decided to stay home with us. When she worked she would leave around 7 a.m. and come home at 7 p.m. My dad had even longer hours. Even though I liked day care and school in later years, I missed my parents a lot. My sister and I would come home to an empty apartment and we didn’t feel like doing anything until our parents came home and everything would come to life. I was missing them acutely.

I was glad when circumstances made my mom stay home ( I think she was glad it turned out that way too ;o) It was nice to come home from school to someone who greets you at the door, smiles and asks how was your day. Plus we didn’t have to go through fridge to look for food. Lunch and dinner were almost always ready for us. My sister and I would eat quick lunch and do our homeworks and have whole evening free to do anything.

BB. I do not disagree with you and as I explained to you this is not strictly black and white. I agree that there are jobs and careers that are more demanding than others that take away our precious time from our children.

Children grow up fast and I don’t want to miss my son’s major milestones when I am away from home for 10 hours a day. I don’t want a babysitter or a day care worker be the first one to see him make his first step or say his first word, etc….

Ok, this comment now is way too long ;o))

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By: bripblap

bripblap — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 01:41:23 +0000

@Shadox – “Many people find staying at home with their kids to be emotionally fulfilling and a family necessity. While others don’t. ”
” Individuals should make the decisions that will make them as happy as possible in the long run. Each of us knows what makes us happy, and that is the only road we should follow.”

I have read your takes on this too, and it’s just a fundamental disagreement that’s not really resolvable since matters of opinion are just that – opinion. Neither of us are basing our arguments on data. I think that the “do what makes you happy” line of thinking goes out the window when you have kids. Does changing diapers make you happy? Does losing sleep when they are teething make you happy? No, but you do it. The road you follow is not driven by happiness all the time. Maybe the overall happiness you feel, but day by day? No. If you don’t find staying with your kids emotionally fulfilling – if you CHOOSE to stay at work 10-12 hours per day and not with your children – to me that choice of happiness is clear: your work makes you happier than your kids, or else you would not choose to do that.

@Carol, @Ruth: I agree with you both, but more than anything with Carol’s statement: “If mom is always gone, they crave her. If dad is always gone, they crave him. ” I wish I had written it that way, Carol.

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By: Ruth

Ruth — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:43:16 +0000

The topic of women and work evokes such passionate emotions, so I scarcely dare to state my opinion, but I’m doing just that, of course. From reading comments on bripblap over the last several months, I think I’m correct in saying that most of the commenters are fairly young people, people in the first half of their work life, at least, rather than in the last half of their work life. I, however, fall into the latter category and I’m considerably older than most of you, so here’s my opinion–and it’s just that, an OPINION. Bripblap is correct when he says that there are jobs and there are jobs. If you leave before dawn and get home after dark, you are missing just as much as your children are. I’m a teacher and we offer daycare before and after school. So we have little 5, 6 year-old kids who arrive at 6:30 a.m. and leave at 6:00 p.m. From everything we know about children and their emotional, psychological, physical, and intellectual needs, that is developmentally inappropriate. Maybe it’s a necessity, and maybe it’s better that they are at school than in a house by themselves, but it’s not good for children. On the other hand, many of our teachers are moms, also, and they bring their school-age children to work with them and take them home at the end of the day. While mom-the-teacher is finishing up for the day, her children are playing in her room or doing their homework or engaging in complicated dramatic play with other teachers’ kids. I happen to think that’s pretty wonderful and a great compromise for moms who want to work. So there are jobs and there are jobs. I really think that’s all bripblap was saying. My last bit of advice to all you young folks is to think about what will be important to you when you are 70, 75, or 80. I’m not there yet, but I’m closing in on 70 faster than I’d like and I can tell you one thing. I have enough money to get by, but I believe I have more love than anybody deserves from my husband, children, and grandchildren. I deposited my time, energy, and love into my family decades ago, and now it’s paying dividends beyond all expectations. As I said, it’s just my opinion, but try to keep your mind and options open, and always take the long view!

By: shadox

shadox — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 03:21:23 +0000

Brip Blap, usually I really like your posts, but this time you and I completely disagree. I know you read my post on the subject, so this is no surprise to you.

I don’t think that your presentation of working moms as misguided, greedy or ignorant of their childrens true needs is a fair or accurate description. You also assme that there is one correct way to raise a child and that you know what it is.

I strongly disagree. Many people find staying at home with their kids to be emotionally fulfilling and a family necessity. While others don’t. As someone who was raised by two working parents I feel perfectly fine about my upbringing, and I am thankful that my parents raised me to understand the value of hard work and dedication. I grew up to be a well educated, well adjusted adult, with no regrets.

I cannot speak for my parents on the subject with any certainty but it seems to me that they too are happy with their life choices. Why do you assume that your way is the only right way to raise a child and define parents who do not follow that approach as “poor”?

My philosophy? Individuals should make the decisions that will make them as happy as possible in the long run. Each of us knows what makes us happy, and that is the only road we should follow.