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  1. Chris

    It continues to amaze me how people think 100k is a lot of money in places like NY, San Francisco, etc…

  2. @Chris: I thought it was a lot when I started making it, but then again I lived in Manhattan, had no expenses other than rent and going out, and barely spent anything on furniture or stuff because I had no space…

    Once you're in the burbs 100K is nothing to be proud of…

  3. Interesting post – your tax burden sounds quite familiar. :)

    It seems a lot of Americans think Canada is relatively “socialist” but maybe the main difference is that American taxes are spread out more (ie pay health care separately) whereas Canucks pay more up front in income taxes?

  4. Your tax burden is about the same as it would be over here in the UK – that is netting between 50% and 60% of gross pay. At lower incomes (below £40k ~ $60k?) it would be more like 60% to 70%. And the equivalent of moving to Florida, is moving to Spain, where the weather is nicer and the cost of living is lower – I think Canadians are probably stuck with the snow and rain.

    @Four Pillars:
    I generally think that the socialist / non-socialist divide that exists in some Americans' minds is misleading. Stuff costs money. Some things are essential (housing, utilities, healthcare, police forces, schools etc) and the way you pay for it doesn't really affect how much it's going to cost you as a society.

  5. Chris

    For sure! Once you get a wife and kids the whole game changes!

  6. Chris

    @ Plonkee

    The problem happens when everyone wants everything from the government and there is little prioritization. We vote “yes” for every sill spending bill because “what can it hurt to have ____”… What people don't appreciate is that IT ISN'T THEIR MONEY and it is the equivalent of STEALING.. I'll bet all these “nice to have” projects would be a lot harder to fund if people had to go to their neighbors house, knock on the door, and ask them to cough up money for it.. Quietly voting to pick your neighbor's pocket is not only cowardly, it is wrong..

  7. Curmudgeon

    Wow. Not because of the health care costs, but because I tie this back to an older post of yours (8 ways to a six figure income), in which you advocate moving to a big city. This seems to be the very antithesis of that post. It's okay; we all have contradictions in our lives, but perhaps you can address this one.

  8. @Curmudgeon: I guess my defense would be that moving to a big city early in your career can (almost artificially) accelerate your salary growth. My second defense would be that I personally don't want to – and haven't found the way to – continue to increase my six-figure salary to maintain the lifestyle I'd like. Before that sounds like I want simply to spend more, that means sending kids to a decent public school, having a reasonable commute, and living in a less urban environment. To have a yard, a short commute and decent public schools (not to mention a less urban environment) is possible, perhaps, in some large cities but not New York.

    I would still say moving to a big city is a better path to a six-figure career, though, and advise anyone to do that when they are young, single, childless and ambitious. If I had to do it over again, I'd still move to Moscow (then New York) when I was in my 20s.

    But a good point, and a good example of how posting my thoughts online can really reveal my changing thought process over time!

  9. Curmudgeon

    What accelerated my salary growth was finding the “right” type of company to work for. The variation in salary levels for the same work can be amazing. I know of many people who accept salaries far lower than what they could be making, even in the same locale, simply because they don't know better.

    For the record, I have never lived in a large city, although I have usually lived and worked near one (Boston, the last 20 or so years).

  10. @Curmudgeon: I guess my defense would be that moving to a big city early in your career can (almost artificially) accelerate your salary growth. My second defense would be that I personally don't want to – and haven't found the way to – continue to increase my six-figure salary to maintain the lifestyle I'd like. Before that sounds like I want simply to spend more, that means sending kids to a decent public school, having a reasonable commute, and living in a less urban environment. To have a yard, a short commute and decent public schools (not to mention a less urban environment) is possible, perhaps, in some large cities but not New York.

    I would still say moving to a big city is a better path to a six-figure career, though, and advise anyone to do that when they are young, single, childless and ambitious. If I had to do it over again, I'd still move to Moscow (then New York) when I was in my 20s.

    But a good point, and a good example of how posting my thoughts online can really reveal my changing thought process over time!

  11. Curmudgeon

    What accelerated my salary growth was finding the “right” type of company to work for. The variation in salary levels for the same work can be amazing. I know of many people who accept salaries far lower than what they could be making, even in the same locale, simply because they don't know better.

    For the record, I have never lived in a large city, although I have usually lived and worked near one (Boston, the last 20 or so years).

  12. Curmudgeon

    What accelerated my salary growth was finding the “right” type of company to work for. The variation in salary levels for the same work can be amazing. I know of many people who accept salaries far lower than what they could be making, even in the same locale, simply because they don't know better.

    For the record, I have never lived in a large city, although I have usually lived and worked near one (Boston, the last 20 or so years).

  13. Curmudgeon

    Wow. Not because of the health care costs, but because I tie this back to an older post of yours (8 ways to a six figure income), in which you advocate moving to a big city. This seems to be the very antithesis of that post. It's okay; we all have contradictions in our lives, but perhaps you can address this one.

  14. @Curmudgeon: I guess my defense would be that moving to a big city early in your career can (almost artificially) accelerate your salary growth. My second defense would be that I personally don't want to – and haven't found the way to – continue to increase my six-figure salary to maintain the lifestyle I'd like. Before that sounds like I want simply to spend more, that means sending kids to a decent public school, having a reasonable commute, and living in a less urban environment. To have a yard, a short commute and decent public schools (not to mention a less urban environment) is possible, perhaps, in some large cities but not New York.

    I would still say moving to a big city is a better path to a six-figure career, though, and advise anyone to do that when they are young, single, childless and ambitious. If I had to do it over again, I'd still move to Moscow (then New York) when I was in my 20s.

    But a good point, and a good example of how posting my thoughts online can really reveal my changing thought process over time!

  15. Curmudgeon

    What accelerated my salary growth was finding the “right” type of company to work for. The variation in salary levels for the same work can be amazing. I know of many people who accept salaries far lower than what they could be making, even in the same locale, simply because they don't know better.

    For the record, I have never lived in a large city, although I have usually lived and worked near one (Boston, the last 20 or so years).