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		<title>By: will i am</title>
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		<dc:creator>will i am</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 23:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>High school seniors, on average, answered correctly only 48.3 percent of questions about personal finance and economics              --------------------       this is sad... because you need to manage your finances well..</description>
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		<title>By: Bookmarked: Carnivals and Links - May 18 &#124; Student Scrooge</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 22:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] brip blap, Steve takes a closer look at whether American kids are stupid about personal finance -I&#8217;ll be honest, I have always registered the news headlines regarding these surveys of high [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Momma @ Tales From The Road Less Traveled</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 15:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve said it about every other factor in childraising and I think this is no different.  You get out of a child what you put in.  Some grow in spite of what you put in.  Some grow because of what you put in.  But they&#039;re all giving back some form of what we put in.  Hopefully when my kids are taking those nifty (weighted) tests, they&#039;ll be scoring in the higher smartitude brackets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve said it about every other factor in childraising and I think this is no different.  You get out of a child what you put in.  Some grow in spite of what you put in.  Some grow because of what you put in.  But they&#8217;re all giving back some form of what we put in.  Hopefully when my kids are taking those nifty (weighted) tests, they&#8217;ll be scoring in the higher smartitude brackets.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Festival of Frugality #125 is up! on the Festival of Frugality</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Festival of Frugality #125 is up! on the Festival of Frugality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 12:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Blap says that American kids maybe aren’t so stupid about personal finance. Best line of the post “some people can’t wrap their minds around simple [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Friday Finance Findings For April 18th : Generation X Finance</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Are American Kids Stupid About Personal Finance? - Stupid is a strong word, but brip blap brings up a good point and references a survey that aims to determine whether or not that is the case. What do you think? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: J in FL</title>
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		<dc:creator>J in FL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I think it would be beneficial to have a PF 101 type of class for HS students... but let&#039;s not forget, many times school is not the answer. What I mean by that is that it doesn&#039;t work many times... people just don&#039;t want to be educated, that&#039;s part of the problem!

And it&#039;s not just kids... we are all guilty of this at one time or another:
http://www.freemoneyfinance.com/2008/03/why-most-invest.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I think it would be beneficial to have a PF 101 type of class for HS students&#8230; but let&#8217;s not forget, many times school is not the answer. What I mean by that is that it doesn&#8217;t work many times&#8230; people just don&#8217;t want to be educated, that&#8217;s part of the problem!</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s not just kids&#8230; we are all guilty of this at one time or another:<br />
<a href="http://www.freemoneyfinance.com/2008/03/why-most-invest.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.freemoneyfinance.com/2008/03/why-most-invest.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Star, Twitter and More Reading &#124; Mortgage Quotes</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Star, Twitter and More Reading &#124; Million Dollar Journey</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Emily @ Taking Charge</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is pretty scary. As Bernanke recently said, personal finance has become more complex than ever, and those who aren&#039;t savvy will struggle. Hopefully this brings light to the fact that kids in America are very uneducated when it comes to finances. Why isn&#039;t Personal Finance 101 mandatory in every public high school? I took honors AP economics my senior year of high school and was being taught complicated theories and supply and demand curves. Have I ever used that knowledge again? No. I would have much more greatly benefited from learning how credit cards work, how insurance works, how to file your taxes, etc. Why are we letting our kids learn the hard way instead of simply teaching them in school? Isn&#039;t that the point of school?? Phew, sorry...this subject just gets me all riled up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is pretty scary. As Bernanke recently said, personal finance has become more complex than ever, and those who aren&#8217;t savvy will struggle. Hopefully this brings light to the fact that kids in America are very uneducated when it comes to finances. Why isn&#8217;t Personal Finance 101 mandatory in every public high school? I took honors AP economics my senior year of high school and was being taught complicated theories and supply and demand curves. Have I ever used that knowledge again? No. I would have much more greatly benefited from learning how credit cards work, how insurance works, how to file your taxes, etc. Why are we letting our kids learn the hard way instead of simply teaching them in school? Isn&#8217;t that the point of school?? Phew, sorry&#8230;this subject just gets me all riled up!</p>
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		<title>By: What kids don&#8217;t know about personal finance &#124; financethatauto.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>What kids don&#8217;t know about personal finance &#124; financethatauto.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Steve at brip blap, who posted about the survey results (to read the post, click here) made public by the Federal Reserve last week, thinks there is reason [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Credit Card Arbitrage, Investing, Lending Club and More!</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: AJC @ 7million7years</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJC @ 7million7years</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Show me the money ... take my 13 y.o son [please!] as an example:

1. How does he handle his own money

2. How does he earn his own money

A.1. - Splits into two equal piles: spends half with impunity and no guilt on things that he needs and can afford; invests the other half in my portfolio (he asked me!).

A.2. Chores = $28 / Month Allowance + his eBay Store = $30 / week (all his own initiative ... we do nothing to help).

Do I really care how he answers a few theoretical questions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Show me the money &#8230; take my 13 y.o son [please!] as an example:</p>
<p>1. How does he handle his own money</p>
<p>2. How does he earn his own money</p>
<p>A.1. &#8211; Splits into two equal piles: spends half with impunity and no guilt on things that he needs and can afford; invests the other half in my portfolio (he asked me!).</p>
<p>A.2. Chores = $28 / Month Allowance + his <a href="http://www.bripblap.com/resources/ebay/" rel='nofollow'>eBay</a> Store = $30 / week (all his own initiative &#8230; we do nothing to help).</p>
<p>Do I really care how he answers a few theoretical questions?</p>
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		<title>By: Todd from Wealthblocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd from Wealthblocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow. how perfect to come across this post! this is going on my news links page as it is EXACTLY the kind of stuff i&#039;m looking to point out. i am about to add a quiz and it has similar questions. i think high schools should go back to teaching civics and make personal finance 101 part of it. kids need to see real life examples. that does it - wealthblocks for kids is now under construction!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow. how perfect to come across this post! this is going on my news links page as it is EXACTLY the kind of stuff i&#8217;m looking to point out. i am about to add a quiz and it has similar questions. i think high schools should go back to teaching civics and make personal finance 101 part of it. kids need to see real life examples. that does it &#8211; wealthblocks for kids is now under construction!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve (Brip Blap)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve (Brip Blap)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@thickenmywallet:  I would love to see the same survey applied to adults, I agree. I doubt that the results change much, to be honest, although some people obviously learn once they are thrown in the water, as other commenters have pointed out.

@SYL:  I can&#039;t remember one second of personal finance except as you said maybe as a math problem.  But I don&#039;t think I heard a single whisper in school about finance.  Not one.  Amazing, when you think about it.

@Ron:  I think you said something I didn&#039;t want to say but it&#039;s completely true!  In a selfish sense, I was armed by my parents and my son will be armed by me with an advantage over our fellow citizens.  In a purely selfish sense, the &quot;dumbing down&quot; of American students in regards to personal finance is good news for all of us who do have some understanding.  It&#039;s harsh, it&#039;s not pleasant to frame it in those terms, but it&#039;s true.  And since the information is not exactly The Secret - at least not if you can Google &quot;personal finance&quot; - I guess we hope that the rising wave will lift all swimmers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@thickenmywallet:  I would love to see the same survey applied to adults, I agree. I doubt that the results change much, to be honest, although some people obviously learn once they are thrown in the water, as other commenters have pointed out.</p>
<p>@SYL:  I can&#8217;t remember one second of personal finance except as you said maybe as a math problem.  But I don&#8217;t think I heard a single whisper in school about finance.  Not one.  Amazing, when you think about it.</p>
<p>@Ron:  I think you said something I didn&#8217;t want to say but it&#8217;s completely true!  In a selfish sense, I was armed by my parents and my son will be armed by me with an advantage over our fellow citizens.  In a purely selfish sense, the &#8220;dumbing down&#8221; of American students in regards to personal finance is good news for all of us who do have some understanding.  It&#8217;s harsh, it&#8217;s not pleasant to frame it in those terms, but it&#8217;s true.  And since the information is not exactly The Secret &#8211; at least not if you can Google &#8220;personal finance&#8221; &#8211; I guess we hope that the rising wave will lift all swimmers!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve (Brip Blap)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve (Brip Blap)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jeremy:  I&#039;m not sure I agree completely.  I never struggled with debt, and I began investing early.  Clearly I didn&#039;t suffer through experience to learn how to do this - I was taught (by my parents and grandparents).  I get your point, but I don&#039;t think we need to view it as a &quot;throw the kids in and let &#039;em swim&quot; question.  I just think the schools aren&#039;t the place to do it!

@Elizabeth:  I think there is a simple solution, which is to teach your kids about personal finance at home.  The kicker is that to do this, the parents need to be educated about it in the first place.  It&#039;s a chicken-and-egg question in some ways.  And you&#039;re 100% right - I think personal finance (if it was to be taught in school) needs to come much, much earlier.  High school is already too late.

@Trent, @Matt:  I agree that self-discipline is more important in many ways than knowledge.  I doubt there are smokers out there, for example, who are unaware that smoking is bad for them.  But on the flip-side, it&#039;s tough to &quot;just do it&quot; if you don&#039;t even understand the rules of the game.  If I don&#039;t know that I NEED to pay more than the minimum on my card to pay it off - if I am really unaware of the consequences - then it&#039;s going to be tough to understand the need for discipline.  But a good point - experience and discipline are required to make use of &quot;book knowledge.&quot;

@plonkee:  Absolutely.  Glass is half full!

@Mrs. Micah:  Maybe I should have said &quot;witches who have powers beyond the ability to wear all black and listen to goth-punk music without irony&quot;? :)

@Curmudgeon:  I&#039;m not sure it was bias in the survey so much as just an odd view of what&#039;s important.  Investing in the market is pitched with such fever in this country it&#039;s often confused with fact rather than opinion.  Merrill Lynch obviously has a vested interest in steering people towards investing in the market rather than, say, starting a business of their own.  It&#039;s commendable that you taught yourself.  Today&#039;s students are in an odd situation - every single drop of financial information you might ever need in your life is available through the Internet, so they have an advantage over those of us raised in the &quot;paper era.&quot;  At the same time, the competition for their attention is mind-numbing - from Wiis to Facebook to 500 TV channels, they have to struggle mightily to focus.  I don&#039;t envy them, to be honest.

@No Debt Plan,@deepali:  Yep, you&#039;re right - same as with smoking, everyone knows it&#039;s bad yet a significant percentage of the population still do it.  Knowing and doing are two different things!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeremy:  I&#8217;m not sure I agree completely.  I never struggled with debt, and I began investing early.  Clearly I didn&#8217;t suffer through experience to learn how to do this &#8211; I was taught (by my parents and grandparents).  I get your point, but I don&#8217;t think we need to view it as a &#8220;throw the kids in and let &#8216;em swim&#8221; question.  I just think the schools aren&#8217;t the place to do it!</p>
<p>@Elizabeth:  I think there is a simple solution, which is to teach your kids about personal finance at home.  The kicker is that to do this, the parents need to be educated about it in the first place.  It&#8217;s a chicken-and-egg question in some ways.  And you&#8217;re 100% right &#8211; I think personal finance (if it was to be taught in school) needs to come much, much earlier.  High school is already too late.</p>
<p>@Trent, @Matt:  I agree that self-discipline is more important in many ways than knowledge.  I doubt there are smokers out there, for example, who are unaware that smoking is bad for them.  But on the flip-side, it&#8217;s tough to &#8220;just do it&#8221; if you don&#8217;t even understand the rules of the game.  If I don&#8217;t know that I NEED to pay more than the minimum on my card to pay it off &#8211; if I am really unaware of the consequences &#8211; then it&#8217;s going to be tough to understand the need for discipline.  But a good point &#8211; experience and discipline are required to make use of &#8220;book knowledge.&#8221;</p>
<p>@plonkee:  Absolutely.  Glass is half full!</p>
<p>@Mrs. Micah:  Maybe I should have said &#8220;witches who have powers beyond the ability to wear all black and listen to goth-punk music without irony&#8221;? <img src='http://www.bripblap.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Curmudgeon:  I&#8217;m not sure it was bias in the survey so much as just an odd view of what&#8217;s important.  Investing in the market is pitched with such fever in this country it&#8217;s often confused with fact rather than opinion.  Merrill Lynch obviously has a vested interest in steering people towards investing in the market rather than, say, starting a business of their own.  It&#8217;s commendable that you taught yourself.  Today&#8217;s students are in an odd situation &#8211; every single drop of financial information you might ever need in your life is available through the Internet, so they have an advantage over those of us raised in the &#8220;paper era.&#8221;  At the same time, the competition for their attention is mind-numbing &#8211; from Wiis to Facebook to 500 TV channels, they have to struggle mightily to focus.  I don&#8217;t envy them, to be honest.</p>
<p>@No Debt Plan,@deepali:  Yep, you&#8217;re right &#8211; same as with smoking, everyone knows it&#8217;s bad yet a significant percentage of the population still do it.  Knowing and doing are two different things!</p>
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